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Krack< Los de Abajo > · Detheroc12/05/2007 10:07:57 AM PSTHemo doesn't need to be nerfed.
It's powerful, but not overpowered. And we've only had it 2 weeks. :*(
Alpaugh< Everlastin Goblinsto… > · Uldaman12/05/2007 10:36:03 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.
i agree

blizz was trying so hard to save the sub tree and the 125% wep dmg is what saved it

MslolScilla12/05/2007 10:40:40 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.

Q u o t e:
i agree

blizz was trying so hard to save the sub tree and the 125% wep dmg is what saved it




But now you can stick a fork in it because Hemo is done.
SsjsephlagosUndermine12/05/2007 10:42:55 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.
like hell it doesnt, frankly it needs a bigger nerf

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NethaeraBlizzard Poster12/05/2007 10:45:47 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.

Q u o t e:
It's powerful, but not overpowered. And we've only had it 2 weeks. :*(


I understand the concern that you have for this. I would urge you to please test out the change on the PTR when you get the chance and give feedback on it there.

The intent at this point with this change is to remove some of the front load damage in favor of more group utility. This was the intention of the original Hemorrhage buff and we're working toward getting it back where we feel it's going to be the most balanced and beneficial both. That said, we are always on the lookout for constructive feedback on these changes.
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Marbule< Final Countdown > · Frostmane12/05/2007 10:47:42 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.
I can't think of anything to say.
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Chi< iPvP > · Agamaggan12/05/2007 10:48:20 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.

Q u o t e:


I understand the concern that you have for this. I would urge you to please test out the change on the PTR when you get the chance and give feedback on it there.

The intent at this point with this change is to remove some of the front load damage in favor of more group utility. This was the intention of the original Hemorrhage buff and we're working toward getting it back where we feel it's going to be the most balanced and beneficial both. That said, we are always on the lookout for constructive feedback on these changes.


Hemorrhage is a terrible form of utility. Just scrap that idea because putting points deep into Subtlety greatly reduces your long term sustained damage enough to where the Hemorrhage debuff does not make up for your personal damage lost.

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Lodum< Brawl > · Earthen Ring12/05/2007 10:50:24 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.
Any nerf to rogues is a step in the right direction.
99% of all Feral Druids somehow manage to suck at easy mode.
Spandia< Little Piggies > · Spinebreaker12/05/2007 10:50:28 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.

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Hemorrhage is a terrible form of utility. Just scrap that idea because putting points deep into Subtlety greatly reduces your long term sustained damage enough to where the Hemorrhage debuff does not make up for your personal damage lost.


QFT, we'd also like to be able to spec something other then combat. But there are classes in worse shape.
Kelanis< Order of the Murloc > · Emerald Dream12/05/2007 10:50:33 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.
-15% DMG is so worth +1 physical dmg for the RAID! Now that's UTILITY, baby!
Fallenman< Casual > · Mal'Ganis12/05/2007 10:51:17 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.
hemo is hardly utility of any kind. it's like trying to pee on a california fire.
Gorganis< zeRo > · Alexstrasza12/05/2007 10:52:19 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.

Q u o t e:
Hemorrhage is a terrible form of utility. Just scrap that idea because putting points deep into Subtlety greatly reduces your long term sustained damage enough to where the Hemorrhage debuff does not make up for your personal damage lost.


Yeah, but the flipside is that it did make for it and do roughly the same damage overall as combat swords, everyone would switch to Hemo because of the fun/useful talents early in the Sub tree (Camo/MoD).
Crows< Æxalted > · Dunemaul12/05/2007 10:53:41 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.

Q u o t e:
Any nerf to rogues is a step in the right direction.
says the druid...
Rizz< The Dragonslayer > · Cenarion Circle12/05/2007 10:54:42 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.

Q u o t e:
I understand the concern that you have for this. I would urge you to please test out the change on the PTR when you get the chance and give feedback on it there.

The intent at this point with this change is to remove some of the front load damage in favor of more group utility. This was the intention of the original Hemorrhage buff and we're working toward getting it back where we feel it's going to be the most balanced and beneficial both. That said, we are always on the lookout for constructive feedback on these changes.

Unfortunately the group utility comes at the cost of soloing speed. Any chance of a compromise at 120% and 41 damage?

(Also, reduce the Shadowstep cooldown to 15 secs.)
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Icedad< Heaven Reapers > · Warsong12/05/2007 10:55:24 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.

Q u o t e:


I understand the concern that you have for this. I would urge you to please test out the change on the PTR when you get the chance and give feedback on it there.

The intent at this point with this change is to remove some of the front load damage in favor of more group utility. This was the intention of the original Hemorrhage buff and we're working toward getting it back where we feel it's going to be the most balanced and beneficial both. That said, we are always on the lookout for constructive feedback on these changes.


Neth, 37dmg debuff is grp utility?

I prefer my combat build.

Lodum< Brawl > · Earthen Ring12/05/2007 10:56:34 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.

Q u o t e:
says the druid...


says the mage...
99% of all Feral Druids somehow manage to suck at easy mode.
Chi< iPvP > · Agamaggan12/05/2007 10:56:56 AM PSTRe: Hemo doesn't need to be nerfed.

Q u o t e:

Unfortunately the group utility comes at the cost of soloing speed. Any chance of a compromise at 120% and 41 damage?

(Also, reduce the Shadowstep cooldown to 15 secs.)


I believe that would be a reasonable compromise.

Also, instead of a flat cool-down reduction on Shadowstep how about adding Shadowstep to the talent Elusiveness?

Elusiveness would reduce the cool-downs of Vanish and Blind by 45 / 90 seconds and the cooldown of Shadowstep by 5 / 10 seconds.

I think 15 seconds would be a little overboard personally but 20 seems like a sweet spot.


Q u o t e:
says the mage...


FAIL

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