I will have to try to get some combat log pics, maybe some videos, but all I have to say is that since 2.3 has came out, I have noticed a distinct increase in vanish not working. It has been bad for a while now, but every single BG and Arena since 2.3 I don't think I have gotten a single vanish off. It's bad enough to make me want to report something... and apparently I'm not alone. Will try to get some pictures, but I hope someone is honestly working on this it truely is ruining the fun of PVP.
WoW Forums -> Vanish: Post 2.3
I was so excited when I saw a blue had posted on this thread only to find this
/sigh
In Arathi Basin recently I used vanish, I was a good 20-30 yards away from a dwarf hunter, and at least 3 seconds later his pet (who previously had been attacking me, but stopped and ran to the hunter after I vanished) ran to me and knocked me out of stealth. I opened a GM ticket and they said that what had happened shouldn't have and that they would forward what I had told them to be tested. Maybe that's just the new canned response when a rogue opens a ticket about how one of the most integral abilities to their class isn't (and hasn't been for a long time) working.
Don't bother mocking my gear/spec/arena rating/whatever, because I really couldn't care less what you think.
Q u o t e:
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/sigh
In Arathi Basin recently I used vanish, I was a good 20-30 yards away from a dwarf hunter, and at least 3 seconds later his pet (who previously had been attacking me, but stopped and ran to the hunter after I vanished) ran to me and knocked me out of stealth. I opened a GM ticket and they said that what had happened shouldn't have and that they would forward what I had told them to be tested. Maybe that's just the new canned response when a rogue opens a ticket about how one of the most integral abilities to their class isn't (and hasn't been for a long time) working.
Don't bother mocking my gear/spec/arena rating/whatever, because I really couldn't care less what you think.
I aggree 100% thank you i was just gonna go make a forum about this lol but u alrdy did i was in arena and i resisted a mages frostbolt after i vanished Lucky then the pet shot me a second after that and knocked me out WTF!!!!!!! if i have someone on me i dont think vanish has worked once sence patch
This is almost game-breaking for me. I'm playing my rogue less and less because it's so damn frustrating that vanish is STILL NOT WORKING.
What is it going to take to get an actual response on this, instead of some random unknown blue giving us a canned response that wasn't even a response at all.
Recently there were two separate threads by Hunter's who were having pet pathing issue's in Karazhan. Those got almost immediate responses from blues that actually acknowledged the problem and that they were working to fix it. The Titan's only know how long us Rogues have been having issue's with Vanish. And occasionally in the past there has been blue acknowledgement of the problem. But as of late it seems they are just going to ignore us and this problem.
Let's go over some past patch notes about Vanish that promised change, but nothing actually changed.
Patch 1.11 - "Chain targeted spells and abilities (e.g. Multi-shot, Cleave, Chain Lightning) will no longer land if target cannot be seen by the caster due to stealth or invisibility."
**I've been (and know other rogues that have been) knocked out of stealth by Multi-shot.**
Patch 2.0 - "Resisted spells will no longer break "Stealth"/"Vanish"."
**Seen this happen too**
Patch 2.2 - "Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish."
**HAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAA, yeah right**
It's pretty obvious that someone (probably more then one person) don't know wtf they're doing. Maybe this recent merger will help, maybe someone from Activision can fix this problem for us. It's plainly obvious that no one at Blizzard can.
Don't bother mocking my gear/spec/arena rating/whatever, because I really couldn't care less what you think.
What is it going to take to get an actual response on this, instead of some random unknown blue giving us a canned response that wasn't even a response at all.
Recently there were two separate threads by Hunter's who were having pet pathing issue's in Karazhan. Those got almost immediate responses from blues that actually acknowledged the problem and that they were working to fix it. The Titan's only know how long us Rogues have been having issue's with Vanish. And occasionally in the past there has been blue acknowledgement of the problem. But as of late it seems they are just going to ignore us and this problem.
Let's go over some past patch notes about Vanish that promised change, but nothing actually changed.
Patch 1.11 - "Chain targeted spells and abilities (e.g. Multi-shot, Cleave, Chain Lightning) will no longer land if target cannot be seen by the caster due to stealth or invisibility."
**I've been (and know other rogues that have been) knocked out of stealth by Multi-shot.**
Patch 2.0 - "Resisted spells will no longer break "Stealth"/"Vanish"."
**Seen this happen too**
Patch 2.2 - "Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish."
**HAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAA, yeah right**
It's pretty obvious that someone (probably more then one person) don't know wtf they're doing. Maybe this recent merger will help, maybe someone from Activision can fix this problem for us. It's plainly obvious that no one at Blizzard can.
Don't bother mocking my gear/spec/arena rating/whatever, because I really couldn't care less what you think.
If I'm not mistaken, they gave our vanish ability to the gas clouds. :P
Kidding kidding.
My problem has been it just doesn't work. I pretty much have given up on vanishing against players. In PvE I've noticed it less often, but in PvP it rarely works any more. I only use it to get out of snares any more these days.
Kidding kidding.
My problem has been it just doesn't work. I pretty much have given up on vanishing against players. In PvE I've noticed it less often, but in PvP it rarely works any more. I only use it to get out of snares any more these days.
Bump for a real bug that blizzard continues to ignore
You just keep trying till you run out of cake.
You just keep trying till you run out of cake.
Is there some reason why this has not yet appeared in the Rogue section of the "Known issues 2.3" post?
I mean after all, a typo in a tooltip got in there? How about a class's most important talent not working?
For crying out loud, please fix the "5-second-out-of-combat-delay-after-killing-PVP-opponent-bug"
I mean after all, a typo in a tooltip got in there? How about a class's most important talent not working?
For crying out loud, please fix the "5-second-out-of-combat-delay-after-killing-PVP-opponent-bug"
Working as intended.
Stop reporting me AFK, how am i typing if i am away from my keyboard.
I am just keeping these botters in the cave company.
Stop reporting me AFK, how am i typing if i am away from my keyboard.
I am just keeping these botters in the cave company.
bump for a real bug that needs fixing. stop blaming latency issues. its a problem with the ability and it needs a fix
"why would the secret of time travel be on Frys ass?" "well it had to be somewhere"
"why would the secret of time travel be on Frys ass?" "well it had to be somewhere"
Bump
This happened to me over the last few days numerous times in AV AB and WSG. Both vanish not working at all and becoming visible for no apparent reason. This makes it nearly impossible to be effective as a rogue as as soon as im unstealth i live approximately 4 seconds.
Also, its not necessarily related to CLOS as at 60 i dont have this ability and yet these bugs continue to occur.
This happened to me over the last few days numerous times in AV AB and WSG. Both vanish not working at all and becoming visible for no apparent reason. This makes it nearly impossible to be effective as a rogue as as soon as im unstealth i live approximately 4 seconds.
Also, its not necessarily related to CLOS as at 60 i dont have this ability and yet these bugs continue to occur.
They will probably say some crap about latency and blame it on our crappy computers, and internet connections.
Thanks for the reports everyone.
With this information we've been able to identify at least one issue with cloak of shadows and vanish.
We are continuing to investigate these issues and if you have more information please post it in this thread.
Please also remember that as it says in the "Issues that are not bugs" sticky there are situations where vanish can be broken by attacks due to client/server latency, this is an unfortunate limitation of our game and will not change in the foreseeable future.
Hortus
Blizzard QA
"Random does not mean fair, and past results do not influence future occurrences." - Corbenn
With this information we've been able to identify at least one issue with cloak of shadows and vanish.
We are continuing to investigate these issues and if you have more information please post it in this thread.
Please also remember that as it says in the "Issues that are not bugs" sticky there are situations where vanish can be broken by attacks due to client/server latency, this is an unfortunate limitation of our game and will not change in the foreseeable future.
Hortus
Blizzard QA
"Random does not mean fair, and past results do not influence future occurrences." - Corbenn
Q u o t e:
Thanks for the reports everyone.
With this information we've been able to identify at least one issue with cloak of shadows and vanish.
We are continuing to investigate these issues and if you have more information please post it in this thread.
Please also remember that as it says in the "Issues that are not bugs" sticky there are situations where vanish can be broken by attacks due to client/server latency, this is an unfortunate limitation of our game and will not change in the foreseeable future.
why don't you just put on like a 1 second buff that you can not be removed from stealth after vanish?
I just finished a Heroic Steamvaults run. During the run, the group wiped on the gnome boss. I ran, hit vanish and kept running. I was out of combat and sitting down the path, with absolutely no aggro on any mob. no DoTs were on my rogue either. All of a sudden, I was not stealthed anymore. I checked my combat log to see 'Vanish fades from you. Stealth fades from you.'
I did not have agro on anything. I did not use Cloak of Shadows before I vanished. I did not have any DoTs on me. I was vanished/stealthed for at least 15-20 seconds before it faded.
Something other than Cloak of Shadows is also messing up Vanish.
So what's going on with it??
I did not have agro on anything. I did not use Cloak of Shadows before I vanished. I did not have any DoTs on me. I was vanished/stealthed for at least 15-20 seconds before it faded.
Something other than Cloak of Shadows is also messing up Vanish.
So what's going on with it??
Q u o t e:
Are you sure this is just post 2.3?
I recall more than a few times my vanish "Worked as intended" and didn't reset my enemy's targeting. With a few seconds delay anyway.
Vanish is much worse in 2.3 ... basically it is completely useless while in combat. You're supposed to enter an improve state of stealth, but it seems to be just the opposite.
I don't even hit vanish anymore when fighting except to immediately CS right after, and half the time I'm out of stealth before I can land the CS.
Find me on Doomhammer, playing ...
Fitzhume, 70 UD rogue,
Magiwiz, 68 Troll mage,
Fonzarelli, 60 UD warlock
Tlar, 65 BE pallie
Problem example 1)
<player> auto-attacking mob
<mob> is affected by rupture (random naga)
<mob> is affected by deadly poison
<player> /cast cheapshot
<player> /cast sprint (runs away)
<player> /cast vanish
<player> gains vanish
<player> loses vanish
Stealth was never gained, to be removed it simply didn't happen in the combat log. When <player> applies damage over time effects on <mob> it prevents him from being able to escape using vanish. It seems [stealth] does not function properly if you have a DoT or 2 ticking.
Problem example 2)
<player> [combat] new target
<mob> is affected by sheep (bomb throwing mechanics in tempest keep, Void reaver's room)
<player> /cast vanish
<player> vanish is removed
<mob> remains sheeped
Vanish effect failed to apply stealth.
If you would like extensive detailed files spanning hundreds of pages, please search the rogue forums for [vanish bug]. If you would like a few volunteer play-testers to record data in a controlled environment then feel free to contact me with the specific variables you desire.
<player> auto-attacking mob
<mob> is affected by rupture (random naga)
<mob> is affected by deadly poison
<player> /cast cheapshot
<player> /cast sprint (runs away)
<player> /cast vanish
<player> gains vanish
<player> loses vanish
Stealth was never gained, to be removed it simply didn't happen in the combat log. When <player> applies damage over time effects on <mob> it prevents him from being able to escape using vanish. It seems [stealth] does not function properly if you have a DoT or 2 ticking.
Problem example 2)
<player> [combat] new target
<mob> is affected by sheep (bomb throwing mechanics in tempest keep, Void reaver's room)
<player> /cast vanish
<player> vanish is removed
<mob> remains sheeped
Vanish effect failed to apply stealth.
If you would like extensive detailed files spanning hundreds of pages, please search the rogue forums for [vanish bug]. If you would like a few volunteer play-testers to record data in a controlled environment then feel free to contact me with the specific variables you desire.
Q u o t e:
Thanks for the reports everyone.
With this information we've been able to identify at least one issue with cloak of shadows and vanish.
We are continuing to investigate these issues and if you have more information please post it in this thread.
Please also remember that as it says in the "Issues that are not bugs" sticky there are situations where vanish can be broken by attacks due to client/server latency, this is an unfortunate limitation of our game and will not change in the foreseeable future.
It is good that someone was able to find a problem that occurs all the time, I am heartened by that. I am a little disheartened that it isn't in the "known issues" list. I am more disheartened that "pets still fail to drop aggro upon a rogue vanishing" also does not appear on the list.
But on the other hand, I am very happy that a typo in our cheat death tooltip will be fixed. I will have happy sunshine dreams about it being eradicated.
For crying out loud, please fix the "5-second-out-of-combat-delay-after-killing-PVP-opponent-bug"
bump for justice
Stealth seems to be broken too. I joined severel bgs this week I saw rogues at least 20 yards from me completely visible, the same way we see stealth members in our party :-/
FYI, the horde rogue and I had the same level
FYI, the horde rogue and I had the same level
I found something interesting that, while tricky to reproduce, seems to happen very reliably.
If I'm attacking and Blade Flurrying, there's always been a small delay before the Blade Flurry attack hits a secondary target (after the attack that's triggering the Blade Flurry hit lands). If I vanish during that small delay period (after the normal attack and before Blade Flurry lands) I almost always get taken out of vanish.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9366/wowscrnshot120707040414yx2.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2943/wowscrnshot120607023712vg8.jpg
Possibly just a coincidence because I'm typically in the thick of things while it's going on so it could be standard vanish breaking, but it seems to happen fairly often.
Also, another random pic of unexplained vanish breakings:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7489/wowscrnshot120707000615wc1.jpg
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30-39 video- http://tinyurl.com/ktgsy
“Some have said there is no subtlety to destruction. You know what? They're dead."
—Jaya Ballard
If I'm attacking and Blade Flurrying, there's always been a small delay before the Blade Flurry attack hits a secondary target (after the attack that's triggering the Blade Flurry hit lands). If I vanish during that small delay period (after the normal attack and before Blade Flurry lands) I almost always get taken out of vanish.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9366/wowscrnshot120707040414yx2.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2943/wowscrnshot120607023712vg8.jpg
Possibly just a coincidence because I'm typically in the thick of things while it's going on so it could be standard vanish breaking, but it seems to happen fairly often.
Also, another random pic of unexplained vanish breakings:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7489/wowscrnshot120707000615wc1.jpg
Corrine- Now back on Lightning's Blade!
30-39 video- http://tinyurl.com/ktgsy
“Some have said there is no subtlety to destruction. You know what? They're dead."
—Jaya Ballard